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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
     
    Still struggling to get my Peek to work all the time. Even though it shows good coverage on my Peek it just sits there doing nothing when it starts acting up.

    My questions of the day are: If I happen to be in a place that doesn't get great data coverage with T-Mobile (like my office at work) and thus my Peek stops receiving or sending if I don't put it in the perfect spot on my desk, should my Peek start working again when I step outside and get great coverage again? The reason I'm asking this is that for the past two days my Peek has stopped working while I'm at my work desk. The weird thing is that stepping outside and getting a great signal again isn't making the emails go in or out. I'm having to reboot the Peek to get it to work again. I have a government Blackberry that has T-Mobile as its provider and while it loses its coverage on occasion at my desk I have never once had to turn it on and off to get it working again. Is this a known limitation of Peek? Is having it out of good data coverage for an extended period of time prevent it from talking to the cell tower when it does have good coverage?
    • CommentAuthormpigh
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
     
    Had the same issue on a road trip we just finished. Each time we left the coverage area, I had to reset the Peek - even after it was showing signal again.
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009 edited
     
    Thanks for letting me know that because I was wondering if I just had really bad luck.

    Tmel? Gabe? Any thoughts on this? I think this is exactly the same problem my wife was having with hers that resulted in her going back to her cell phone. If the Peek loses its signal it appears it won't start working again once the signal is reestablished like it should. And this doesn't happen all the time but often enough to become really annoying because you never really know when it has occurred because the Peek shows you with a good signal.
    • CommentAuthordarkxsun
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
     
    @Eric When talking to Care, they told me this problem existed, that sometimes when it's out of coverage area, it won't re-register properly with Peek servers, even after it re-registers with the towers. I'm not sure if this is true, because the particular person at Care didn't seem to know what he was talking about, but that's what he told me.

    However, I have definitely lost service and gotten it back without rebooting and continued using it. Maybe it's only when you lose it for a certain amount of time?
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
     
    "the particular person at Care didn't seem to know what he was talking about" LOL

    Like I said in my first post, I have certain "sweet spots" on my desk at work that allow me to keep a good signal but every now and then I don't think about it and just put my Peek on my desk wherever and sometimes when it loses the signal it works when I reposition it and sometimes it doesn't. It's really a hit and miss type thing as to if I will have to reboot or not. I think the worst part of it is that I never know if I need to reboot until hours later and realize I didn't get a update from Facebook or something (I have mine set to send an hourly update for this very reason). It is pretty annoying.
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      CommentAuthoratvk55
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
     
    @eric and @darkxsun-i never thought about it that way, but it makes sense.

    "it won't re-register properly with Peek servers, even after it re-registers with the towers"

    "I think the worst part of it is that I never know if I need to reboot until hours later"

    maybe this new patch or upgrade will fix it.
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
     
    Not sure that the patch has been said to address anything like this but I guess I can still hope. If it is a fact that they know they have issues talking to the servers after losing signal, I hope they are working on it. Seems like a very bad flaw in the system if this is the case.
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     
    Now that I see Tmel and Gabe are on, any thoughts on this? Is it a known issue that if you "leave" your coverage area and then "re-enter" you could have issues with the Peek servers?
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      CommentAuthoratvk55
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2009
     
    waitting for answer : )
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2009
     
    As am I...
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2009
     
    Still hoping for some support here... or at least some information on the coverage question.
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      CommentAuthorkrauser530
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009 edited
     
    I've heard that it's called a hidden red x and it has something to do with battery saving. Instead of continuously looking for service, (which takes a lot of power) it goes into standby or something. Why it shows full bars is beyond me though, It should show an x. It's been an issue for a long while (at least since I got mine in May). A good sign you're not connected is if you have full bars and haven't gotten an email in a while. The only solution I've seen is to turn the peek on and off. Quite a nuisance though.
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
     
    That is some interesting info krauser. Still hoping to hear something official from Peek too since I'm almost certain this has been my issue all along. Sounds like an update of the software is in order if this is the case. I'd much rather have a red x if I'm not getting a signal than full bars. Actually having a separate icon that means, "hey your Peek has been out of the coverage area for too long and I'm putting my butt to sleep to save your battery" would be better than full bars or the red x. Or if this is something it is doing, personally I would rather have it still look for a signal every so often or at least if I try sending an email (instead of it just sitting there with my emails stuck in the inbox like it does now).
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      CommentAuthorkrauser530
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009 edited
     
    It would be nice to get some input from peek staff. All the info i could find is in this threa : http://boards.getpeek.com/discussion/1000/whats-up-with-our-systems-update-1/
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      CommentAuthortmel
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
     
    When your Peek enters a poor coverage area, it'll most likely lose signal. When it re-enters a good coverage area it's *supposed* to re-acquire the signal on it's own and pick up right where it left off.

    However, as most of you know...thats not always the case. This brings us to 2 possible issues:

    1. Hidden Red X Syndrome: Your Peek shows signal, however you're not really connected to anything and you do not receive any email/text. Once you turn your Peek off/on, you properly re-connect to the network and everything works again.

    2. Red X Syndrome: Your Peek does not show signal, when in a known good coverage area. At times, it can have issues re-connecting to the network when it is going in/out of coverage frequently. However, upon turning your Peek off/on, you'll get signal back and start to receive email/text again.

    The above 2 issues can and will still happen on occasion, and older software versions (1.04 and 1.06 especially) are notorious for signal issues.

    Moral of the story: When in doubt, turn your Peek off/on.
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
     
    Is this something that you plan on fixing in the future? It is kind of hard to know when you need to turn your Peek on and off if there is no indication that there is a problem.
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
     
    And reading through that thread krauser linked above, you guys have known about this issue for awhile and it would appear you haven't tried to fix it (at least there is no obvious mention anywhere that you have). That thread pretty much summed it all up for me and had good points stated throughout it about the need for reliability over battery life. I have only a few days left on my service with my Peek at this time and would love to get an answer on this before I decide to pay more.
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      CommentAuthortmel
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
     
    @Eric - We have been progressively fixing it with each software release. 1.09.18 is leaps and bounds ahead of 1.04 in that respect.
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
     
    I'm on software version 1.09.15 and I experience this pretty frequently (now that I know what is actually happening). It is nice to know that 1.09.18 is better than 1.04, but that doesn't really say if the problem is going to be fixed. Like some folks stated in the above linked thread, I'd rather give up battery life and know that when I have a good signal my messages will go through without me having to turn my Peek on and off. As I've said many times now, when you have no real indication that there is a problem, how do you know to recycle the power to correct the problem? If my Peek says I have a good signal (I guess this would be your "hidden red x syndrome") how am I supposed to know that something is wrong? This is a very serious problem with the reliability of your device and you guys kind of act like it is no big deal.
    • CommentAuthordarkxsun
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
     
    @Eric I'd be interested to hear if updating to 1.09.18 fixes this. Is this an option for you?
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      CommentAuthorkrauser530
    • CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
     
    @Eric and @darkxsun I've only had a hidden red x once since my upgrade to 18, which has been better since I had it happen pretty frequently on 15. See if upgrading helps if you have the ability to. It's definitely something that still happens, but it seems that some progress is being made by the Peek HQ.
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    I don't have an upgrade cable at this time and not so sure I want to invest even more money into the Peek without some assurance that it will solve my problems.
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      CommentAuthoratvk55
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    it's almost like a catch22.
    you need the cable to upgrade, if you want to see if it fixes the problems.
    • CommentAuthordarkxsun
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    @Eric Where are you? General area's good enough, just wondering because I'm getting one soon. Also have you checked the Peek cable map?
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    I'm in Albuquerque and there aren't any listed on that site (although I think hdtravel has one and lives here too). I may just say forget it and go back to a cell phone. While I liked the idea behind the Peek the software is pretty buggy, the customer support is really non-existant (turn your Peek on/off is not really customer support), and the price for an unreliable device isn't really worth it. Not to mention I was emailed by a certain someone at Peek and told I would receive additional support via email (and a way to return my wifes Peek for a refund) and neither of those has ever arrived. Haven't decided anything for sure yet, but that is the way I'm leaning right now.
    • CommentAuthordarkxsun
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    Alright. I'm in PA so can't help you with cable, and if that's the way you want to go I don't have much to dissuade you ;)
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      CommentAuthorkrauser530
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    Well, I am moving to Miami in a couple months and may try it again there but not really sure. Would have loved for this thing to work but after spending I think $60 a piece on the two Peeks I bought and then at $20 a month for unreliable service I can't see even investing $15 more to see if the problems will be resolved. Not to mention I'd have to pay out another $20 for another month of service with no idea if it would work more reliably.
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      CommentAuthortmel
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    @Eric - Email me tmel@getpeek.com so that we can make this right please!
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
     
    Tom is helping me out. I'll post back with any results so that anyone else having issues will know if it is successful.
    • CommentAuthorGoalieEd
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2009
     
    Any updates on this? I swiched peeks recently (long story) and with the newer peek I'm already seeing a lot more hidden x than with the older one. Both are the latest version of the peek.
    • CommentAuthordarkxsun
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2009
     
    • CommentAuthorhdtravel
    • CommentTime7 days ago
     
    @Eric - You are right on. Although a somewhat "interesting" gadget the Peek has some real issues. It is definitely a "beta" product in my opinion. It may get there someday if the company can survive financially.